![]() How do those have an inherent, fixed, no-fiat-needed value but shadow blade does not. All kinds of curses that would make no sensible creature give you money for them. There are magic items which instantly kill you if you attune to them. There are magic items which vanish upon single use. ![]() I will maintain that it's exactly as sensible as saying that a magic weapon has no value because it doesn't have one explicitly listed, so for the sake of consistency I'd ask any DM who goes with that reading to not allow those to work either. If they miss riposte the little shit for the sheer audacity. Now we simply walk away and wait for their opportunity attack with disadvantage. Nothing in the extra attack feature across any mention in phb or dmg says anything about the need to use the same weapon for every attack, RAW does not require that attacks come from the same weapon or hand, nor does it even imply that an attack made with a weapon in either hand is inherently superior or inferior.īooming blade with a short sword and trip attack: 1d6+dex+1d6 piercing+2d8 thunder This time bladesinger's level 4 asi will be for warcaster. Vuman with martial adept for trip attack and riposte, bladesinger 6, and gloomstalker 3 again The convenience is that your bonus action is free for an offhand attack They will either stand up and take 3d8 damage or they will eat a lot of attacks and accomplish very little as they have disadvantage and all melee attackers have disadvantage Vuman with martial adept for trip attack and quick toss, Bladesinger 6 with gunner feat (Don't care about guns but it lets you fight ranged within 5 feet like cbe and it's a half feat), Gloomstalker ranger 3įirst round booming blade with trip attack, two regular attacks with advantage because they are prone, the second of which has an extra d8, and quick toss the shadowblade as a bonus actionīooming blade+trip: 2d8+dex+1d6 psychic +2d8 thunder I can definitely see how this could be interpreted the other way though, and it's really a matter of do you take printed RAW over digital RAW, and that's really a matter for your DM to answer.Ĭrawford says shadowblade ought to work with booming blade and that it not working is an unintended consequence of fixing the cantrips' other issues so we will start with the Crawford RAI method, then move on for the "Crawford can DM how he wants but rules is rules" crowd.įor this we will assume the DM lets you cast shadow blade at initiative because it works out He agreed with me that the rules seemed to indicate that it was possible, and he would allow it. I presented this exact set of evidence to my DM and asked for his ruling on if my Bladesinger could use blade cantrips using Shadow Blade. As DnD Beyond has been updated since Tasha's was released, this becomes the "most recent published version." ![]() RAW are supposed to follow the "most recent published version" of the rule in question. Sage Advice does not specifically address this combination of spells. DnD Beyond lists "a weapon" as a material component. Tasha's, the most recent print publication with the blade cantrips, states a weapon worth more than 1 silver piece is a required component. The determination is best left to your DM. r/DnD /r/rpg /r/Pathfinder_RPG /r/tabletop /r/UnearthedArcana /r/DnDHomebrew /r/dndnext Flair Searchesĭ&D 5e 1D&D D&D 4e D&D v3.5 D&D 3e Pathfinder 1 Pathfinder 2 WOD PBTA Fate GURPS Universal OtherĪt best the RAW is conflicted on this. r/characterdrawing /r/Imaginar圜haracters /r/alternativeart On-Topic Subreddits
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